Fujifilm X-M5 vs X80: Has the X80 Dream Just Been Shattered?

The Fujifilm X-M5 is incredibly compact.

In fact, it’s so small that it raises the question: does this crush our hopes of ever seeing a Fujifilm X80?

During the launch videos yesterday, I noticed a size comparison between the Fujifilm X-M5, X70, and X-E4 in a FujiFanboys video which you can see here (camerasize.com hasn’t added the X-M5 to their database yet). The comparison shows that the X-M5 is nearly the same size as the X70 and only slightly heavier (340g vs. 355g).

The X-M5 also offers interchangeable lenses, which is both an advantage and a drawback—it still requires a lens, making the overall setup larger.

For the X-M5 to match the portability of the X70, Fujifilm would need to expand its pancake lens lineup. Currently, they only have the XF18mmF2 and XF27mmF2.8, and while the XF18mmF2 is a pancake, it’s almost twice the length of the XF27mmF2.8 (40.6mm vs. 23mm).

Given the current lens options, a Fujifilm X80 with an 18mmF2.8 lens would still be unbeatable in terms of portability, with the added flexibility of the WCL-X70 conversion lens.

However, if Fujifilm could update the XF18mmF2 to a more compact version or release an XF18mmF2.8 pancake lens, it could spell the end for any remaining hope for an X80.

At this point I do not know what Fujifilm’s plans are in this regard. I have no rumors about any XF18mmF2 refresh nor of an X80. But let us know in the comments what you think about it and if you’d prefer Fujifilm to invest now in a XF18mmF2 successor or in an X80.

Forget About Fujifilm X-Pro4, X-E5, GFX100SII, X-T40, X80 & Co: the Only Camera Coming February 20 is the Fujifilm X100VI

What’s Coming

No, we will not hear anything about the Fujifilm X-Pro4 on February 20. Nothing.

And nothing also about the Fujifilm X-E5, or X-T40 or X-T300, or X80, or GFX100R.

The truth is this: the only camera to be announced on February 20 will be the Fujifilm X100VI.

I guess the Fujifilm X100VI is just too important for Fujifilm and it’s best that it does not get any distraction from other cameras on launch day.

Many of you guys might have seen it coming, due to the lack of rumors about other cameras.

But FujiRumors will make sure that the lack of rumors about other cameras will end soon ;).

Surprises?

But this does not mean we can’t get any surprises on February 20.

I still hope (no rumor) that Fujifilm will give us a new X mount roadmap, or makes major Kaizen firmware announcements, or they could even announce new lenses considering the fact that our sources said the X100VI is the only camera coming on February 20 (and we have leaked images of future XF lenses already months ago). But to be clear: as of now, I have not received information about other gear to come on February 20 (which does not mean it can’t come).

And Fujifilm has also teased a major XApp update, which hopefully might also be announced on February 20 (not a rumor, just a hope).

But they could also show us protoypes of gear to come.

As far as I can remember, at every X Summit something happened that I did not see coming, and I am confident that also this time we will get some surprises.

So definitely stay tuned on FujiRumors on February 20. We will cover it all, and you won’t miss anything.

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Fujifilm FF230003 Registration Found (2nd Unreleased Product): Shall the X-Pro4, X-E5, X-S30, X-T6, X-T40, X-H3, X-H3S, X80, X100R, GFX100R Rumors Magically Appear ;)

Fujifilm has registered the FF230003, so we now have a total of two unreleased products registered:

  • FF230002
  • FF230003

Ah, that’s not enough!!!

Because as we told you, Fujifilm will announce more cameras in the first months of 2024 than in the entire year of 2023 (hence 3 or even more cameras in just a few months).

So there are still registrations missing here, trust me ;).

And we also told you (many months ago) what one of the cameras will be: the Fujifilm X100V successor (which you guys decided to call Fujifilm X100R).

Now, I can see the “rumors” about the Fujifilm GFX100R, Fujifilm X-Pro4, Fujifilm X-E5, Fujifilm X-T6, Fujifilm X-T40, Fujifilm X80, Fujifilm X-H3, Fujifilm X-H3S and more pop up. But those “rumors” appeared also ahead of the X Summit on May 24 and September 12, and of course none (not a single one!!!) of them materialized. But I guess misleading readers for traffic and good SEO is a great deal for them.

Here on FujiRumors we don’t mislead you with fake rumors.

Here we will tell you the real deal, and you will know it all very soon (promised!!!).

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Fujifilm FF230002 Registration Found – Expect X-Pro4, X-E5, X-S30, X-T6, X-T40, X-H3, X-H3S, X80, X100VI (X200) and GFX50R Successor Rumors to Magically Appear ;)

Fujifilm has registered the FF230002, so we now have a total of 2 registrations:

  • FF230001
  • FF230002

One of them will certainly be the Fujifilm GFX100 successor, which we already rumored months ago here.

Now, I can see the “rumors” about the Fujifilm GFX50R successor, the Fujifilm X-Pro4, Fujifilm X-E5, Fujifilm X-T6, Fujifilm X-T40, Fujifilm X80, Fujifilm X-H3, Fujifilm X-H3S, Fujifilm X100VI or X200 and more pop up. But those “rumors” appeared also ahead of the X Summit on May 24, and of course none of it materialized. But I guess misleading readers for traffic and good SEO is a great deal for them.

FujiRumors will let you know what the real deal is… clickbait and misleading free as usual ;).

  • FF230002
  • 5.8GHz/5.1GHz/2.4GHz
  • ≤20ppm
  • 5725-5850MHz 5150-5350MHz 2400-2483.5MHz
  • 2023-06-19

The patent has been found at cmiitid by the Japanese website asobinet.

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Which 5th Generation Sensor do You Want in the Fujifilm X-T5, X-Pro4, X-E5, X-S20, X-T40, X80, X200?

When I re-watched the X Summit, I was confused by the statement the Japanese Fujifilm manager made in regards to the 5th generation 26MP stacked and 40MP non-stacked sensor.

His statement:

there is no other camera platform more suitable to have them both than the ‘X-H” Series

I wondered what he meant by that, and I concluded it could be either one of the 2 options mentioned below:

  1. only the X-H line will offer both sensor options
  2. since the X-H line is the most suitable, it will be the first to feature both sensor options. Other less suitable lines might get both options too, but only later on as the priority is the X-H line
  3. NEW ENTRY: some FR-reader said this is just marketing blah blah blah aimed to sell as many X-H cameras as possible and then both sensors will find its way in most camera lines anyway

I’ve asked you guys in a survey what you think the manager meant, and here is the result of the survey.

SPECULATION (NOT RUMOR): In my eyes, it would make sense to put both sensor options in at least all of Fuji’s higher end models, as ordering the same Sony sensor in larger numbers, helps to push down the cost for each sensor.

But what Fujifilm will decide to do is unknown at this point. And maybe it is even unknown to Fujifilm itself.

And yet…

let’s assume for a moment that the interpretation the majority of you guys gave is correct. So let’s assume that only the X-H line will get both sensor options.

This would mean that in regards to all other lines, Fujifilm would have to make a decision on which sensor to pick for each camera.

And if that would be the case, I can already see lots of head scratching at the Fujifilm HQ trying to figure out which sensor is best for which line.

If that’s really the case, then I thought that the generous FujiRumors community will gladly invest a bit of its time to give Fujifilm its opinion on this matter by commenting on this article and by voting the surveys down below.

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X-ProF, (Re)designing the Perfect Camera :: Fujifilm X-T5 Wishlist :: X80 with 40mm Lens :: Fujifilm GFX 50R II :: FR-Readers Wishlist Corner

FR-Readers Wishlist Corner

Here is another roundup of wishlist shared by the FR-community to me via email at fujirumor@gmail.com.

Previous Wishlist Episodes:

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Let’s Be Clear: Fujifilm’s Next X Series Camera will be Fujifilm X-H2 and There Won’t be Fujifilm X-T40 or X80 Before that

Let’s talk Fujifilm X-T40.

And let’s talk about it, because, I am receiving emails asking me if it is true, like some wrote, that protoype Fujifilm X-T40 cameras with IBIS are right now being tested and the X-T40 will be released in 2021.

Short answer: fake rumor clickbait ;).

If you’ve read FujiRumors recently, you’ll know the answer already. In fact, we told you that:

The sum of all these rumors gives you the answer already: there is no Fujifilm X-T40 coming in 2021. And not even a Fujifilm X80 or any other Fujifilm X camera.

ATTENTION: I am not saying there won’t ever be an X-T40. What I say is:

  • there won’t be any 26MP X-Trans IV Fujifilm X-T40 or X80 (the X-E4 was the last one)
  • if an X-T40 or X80 will come, then it will have a new sensor/processor and it would come at the same time or after the X-H2 release sometimes in 2022

Look, here is what you can do, to avoid to be mislead in future: only trust Nokishita or FujiRumors. That’s it.

Nokishita has access to press releases and specs sheets once Fujifilm sends them to stores and media, hence it’s a fantastic source for very short term rumors a few days ahead of announcements. FujiRumors on the other hand is here to guide you through the long-, mid- and short term rumors, so that you don’t get many surprises once Nokishita starts to leak, as you’ll already have a pretty clear idea on what is coming and how the specs look like.

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Fujicast Interview with Fujifilm Manager: Talking Breakthrough Fujifilm X-H2, X-E4 the Last 26 MP (?), Open Lens Protocols, X80 and More!

The latest Fujicast episode is now online, covering all the current Fujifilm announcements with Fujifilm’s UK Marketing Manager, Andreas Georghiades (GFX100S, GF80mmF1.7, X-E4, XF70-300mm and XF27mmMKII.

But as there is a podcast listener question corner, you can figure out that many questions gravitate towards future Fujifilm products and more. So they touch on Fujifilm X-H2, the open lens protocols, the X80 and more.

Kevin Mullins also speculates that the X-E4 might be the last X series camera featuring the 26MP X-Trans sensor and the manager says that there is indeed not much left to update with the 26MP sensor.

However, nobody knows what the first camera with a new sensor will be. There is still an X-T40 waiting to see the light of the day for example, which is such a loved line, that Fujifilm should definitely continue it in my opinion.

Down below you can find the full podcast as well as a summary:

Summary + Podcast

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Fujifilm X-H2, X80, GFX100V, X-Pan, Monochrome and More – FR-Readers Wishlist Corner

Here is another roundup of wishlist shared by the FR-community to me via email at fujirumor@gmail.com.

Previous Wishlist Episodes:

As opposed to the last episode, this time we focus on camera wishes instead of lens wishes.

In this roundup, one particular and recurrent wish finds me totally agreeing with: the need for a Fujifilm X80!

I do hope Fujifilm will understand that the Fujifilm XF10 was not the X70 successor we were waiting for and that they will finally give us an X80.

I mean, Fujifilm should have been able to overcome these X80 issues by now!!!

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New Fujifilm Camera FF200003 Registered: Fujifilm X-E4, New Fujifilm GFX or Surprise Camera X-T40 or X80?

Nokishita has just spotted the registration of a new Fujifilm camera.

Fujifilm’s unreleased digital camera “FF200003” has been registered with an overseas certification body. Equipped with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.2. (X-S10 is FF200001)

They do not share any other detail, but thanks to exclusive leaks here on FujiRumors, we know that for early 2021 we can expect for sure:

But of course there can be always surprises. A Fujifilm X80? Or a Fujifilm X-A8? Or maybe even the long awaited Fujifilm X-T40? Or is another camera that will surprise us? Maybe even the Fujifilm X-H2 (although I doubt that, as Fujifilm said they want to achieve a breakthrough with the X-H2)?

I will investigate, and see if there is another camera coming up in addition to the ones we already rumored.

In the meantime, feel free to speculate, dream and wish in the comments :)

patent registration here – via nokishita

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