Fujifilm X-M5 vs X80: Has the X80 Dream Just Been Shattered?

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The Fujifilm X-M5 is incredibly compact.

In fact, it’s so small that it raises the question: does this crush our hopes of ever seeing a Fujifilm X80?

During the launch videos yesterday, I noticed a size comparison between the Fujifilm X-M5, X70, and X-E4 in a FujiFanboys video which you can see here (camerasize.com hasn’t added the X-M5 to their database yet). The comparison shows that the X-M5 is nearly the same size as the X70 and only slightly heavier (340g vs. 355g).

The X-M5 also offers interchangeable lenses, which is both an advantage and a drawback—it still requires a lens, making the overall setup larger.

For the X-M5 to match the portability of the X70, Fujifilm would need to expand its pancake lens lineup. Currently, they only have the XF18mmF2 and XF27mmF2.8, and while the XF18mmF2 is a pancake, it’s almost twice the length of the XF27mmF2.8 (40.6mm vs. 23mm).

Given the current lens options, a Fujifilm X80 with an 18mmF2.8 lens would still be unbeatable in terms of portability, with the added flexibility of the WCL-X70 conversion lens.

However, if Fujifilm could update the XF18mmF2 to a more compact version or release an XF18mmF2.8 pancake lens, it could spell the end for any remaining hope for an X80.

At this point I do not know what Fujifilm’s plans are in this regard. I have no rumors about any XF18mmF2 refresh nor of an X80. But let us know in the comments what you think about it and if you’d prefer Fujifilm to invest now in a XF18mmF2 successor or in an X80.

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Fujifilm Teases Two Cameras Coming in 2025, but there Will Be Even More Cameras than That

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The X Summit just took place and you can find it here and the full live coverage here.

Everything happened as expected and we got all this gear.

But at the very end of the event Fujifilm had this “one more thing” moment in which they said:

there is one more thing. We are currently developing new cameras. Although the timing is yet to be determined, we hope to bring you exciting news next year

The Fujifilm Japan manager than gives a glance under both towels and seems to be visibly excited about what’s hidden there.

Now, I know some might moan and wish for a proper teaser instead of this.

But guys, you know very well that everything you need to do is to follow FujiRumors if you want to get a glimpse into the future of Fujifilm. ;)

So let’s look at what these cameras could be.

The fact that one towel is white and the other black might suggest that one represents a GFX camera and the other an X series camera, as GFX gear typically comes in white boxes while X series gear comes in black boxes (although, it seems the X-M5 ships in brown boxes as we reported here).

Additionally, the camera under the white towel is noticeably larger than the one under the black towel, further supporting our assumption.

If I should place a bet, I’d say under the white towel hides the fixed lens Fujifilm GFX, which should come in the first half of 2025. But that’s just a guess of mine.

More complicated is to guess what’s under the black towel.

Since it is definitely a very small camera, I’d say it’s either the 1″ sensor half frame camera or the Fujifilm X-E5, which will both come at some point in 2025.

But again: that’s all just blind speculation on my side. There could be any other camera under those towels.

In fact, let us know in the comments what you’d like to hide under those towels.

What I can say for sure: we won’t get only 2 cameras in 2025. In fact, we have already rumored three cameras to come until now and why not, there could be even more coming. We got 4 cameras in 2024, so why not make it at least 4 (or more) also in 2025? ;).

Because there are even more cameras waiting to get the 5th generation treatment, right X-Pro?

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10 New Features of the Fujifilm X-M5 – and Some Coming to X-T5 & Co via Firmware

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The Fujifilm X-M5 has just been launched.

And quite surprisingly for being the most affordable MILC camera of Fujifilm, it comes packed with a bunch of new features that even Fujifilm’s highest end cameras don’t have.

Some of those features will come via firmware update to other models for sure, some we can hope for, but others are hardware features available only on the Fujifilm X-M5 so far.

So let’s quickly run thorugh them:

  1. Manual Focus range customization
    You can set the rotation reach from 60 up to 900 degree individually for each lens. This will come via firwmare to other models. – see screeshot here from this video
  2. New Menu Interface in Vlog Mode
    Vlog mode has now a new interface (with more options and new features) that makes it easier to use – see screenshot here. There is also a zoom slider on the LCD – see screenshot here taken from this video
  3. Three micorphones
    the X-M5 is equipped with three microphones, allowing you to choose between capturing sound from all directions or focusing on either the front or rear mic, depending on your needs. Alternatively, you can use both the front and rear mics simultaneously, which is perfect for interviews where you want to record audio from both the person filming behind the camera and the person in front
  4. 4K LG (Long Play)
    4K with 1.18x crop for longer record times
  5. Vertical Recording Mode
    It’s there, it’s new. You can film Full HD with it. The advantage is that you do not need to flip your camera to record vertically, hence it is more comfortable to hold in your hands when filming
  6. Cable Connection with X App
    connect camera via cable to phone for fast transfer of files larger than 4GB to X App
  7. Recording Timer
    Set a timer (30 / 60 seconds) and then record vertical video
  8. Bit Rates Expansion
    New lower bit rates offered such as 25 mbps or even 8 mbps to generate smaller files
  9. Green Frame
    when you record video in slow motion mode, the recording frame turns green (instead of red). This helps to avoid to erroneously record in slow motion – see screenshot here from this video
  10. Steady-State Noise Reduction
    steady-state noise reduction function reduces noise that continues to sound at a certain frequency, such as the noise from an air conditioner.
  11. New portrait enhance mode
    you can set it from strong to weak. Not completely new, as it was available on older Xacti cameras like X-T200 and X-A7

BONUS 1

  • USB-C Powering even with empty battery
    I’m not entirely certain about this, but maybe you can help me out. The X-M5 can be powered via USB-C, as seen on other cameras, but it seems it can continue to operate even when the battery is completely drained. Normally, when the battery is empty, you have to wait for it to charge a bit before the camera can run on USB-C power again. The original concept was that if the power cable was accidentally unplugged, the battery would still have enough charge to keep the camera running and save your files. However, with the X-M5, it seems that’s no longer necessary—if powered via USB-C, the camera will keep running continuously, even with a fully drained battery. But on the other hand, if you are for example in an live talk online and you use the X-M5 as webcam, you prefer to have the camera running even without battery rather than switching off

BONUS 2

  • Good Bye Black Box
    We are used to get our X gear shipped in black boxes. Well, that’s no longer the case with the X-M5, which will come in brown boxes (see here the screenshot taken from this video). I wonder if that’s the new color for all Fujifilm X gear going foward

FIRMWARE BONUS

  • Aperture switch
    That’s a feature of the Fujinon XF16-55mmF2.8 II and allows for smooth brightness transition when adjusting aperture. It works now already on X-M5 but a firmware update will come to make it work with other cameras – quick example in this video

Anything else that you noticed? Feel free to let us know in the comments.

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LIVE BLOG: Fujifilm X-M5, XF16-55mmF2.8 II and XF500mmF5.6 Reviews and Pre-Orders Now

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Fujifilm X Summit Launch Blog
(refresh for latest updates)

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Official Fujifilm Info

First Looks

  • BH Explora – FUJIFILM Announces Creator-Friendly X-M5 Camera and X Series Lenses
  • gizguide – X-M5 introduction
  • thephoblographer – Fujfilm launches X-M5 and new lenses

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Fujifilm X Summit LIVE STREAM Starts NOW – WATCH LIVE on FujiRumors!

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The Fujifilm X Summit Live Stream starts now. You can follow it here on FujiRumors (live event summary below).

LIVE EVENT COVERAGE BELOW

Down below the whole event summed up (refresh the page frequently):

  • three new products coming
  • right away the unveil the name of all three products that are coming
  • they introduce the designer of Fujifilm cameras. He is probably the man who has designed the most number of film cameras in the world
  • X series seems to have a timeless design, but there are always small challenges
  • X-T50 and X100VI have received very positive feedback in terms of design and operation

Fujifilm X-M5

  • X-M series is reborn
  • perfect camera as first MILC camera or everyday camera
  • introducing the X-M5
  • 355 gram weight
  • has film simulation dial
  • has PSAM dial
  • new user interface (looks cool!)
  • multidirectional micorphone
  • X-Trans IV and X-Processor 5
  • very fast and precise AF
  • 6.2K open gate
  • 4K/60p
  • 3 strategicallly placed micorphones with new microphone direction setting (reducing background noise and wind filter)
  • high quality audio without need of external microphone
  • USB connection via X App for larger than 4GB files

XF500mmF5.6

  • 43 X mount lenses released since 2012
  • XF500mmF5.6 aims to establish Fujifilm as a top brand
  • 762mm equivalent lens in only 335 gram
  • highest resolution in XF lineup
  • suppress axial chromatic aberration
  • fast linear AF (0.33 seconds focus acquisition)
  • enhanced OIS (5.5 stops)
  • a pinncale red badge lens
  • a look inside the lens factory (lens polishing)
  • some lens elements are so thin that one can distort them just by touching them

XF16-55mmF2.8 II

  • one of the most popular XF lenses is the XF16-55mmF2.8
  • the entire X summit is recorded with the XF16-55mmF2.8 II
  • 37% weight reduction (410g)
  • image quality has been enhanced (less chromatic aberration and purple fringing, minimized ring patterns in bokeh, enhanced minimum focus distance)
  • weather resistant and linear motor
  • aperture click switch for smoother video recording
  • future firmware will improve aperture smoothness for video on several models. X-M5 already has this smooth aperture in conjunction with the new XF16-55
  • precise assembly
  • red badged lenses to be manufactured also outside of Japan, but with identical quality

Availability and Price

  • X-M5: $799 body and $899 for the XC15-45 kit – coming mid November
  • XF16-55mmF2.8II: $1,199 – coming end November
  • XF500mmF5.6: $2,999 – coming end November

One more thing

  • they tease more cameras coming
  • the cameras are hidden under a towel (you can see here)
  • timing has yet to be decided
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