Back in October, I told you that “currently” the OIS and IBIS on the Fujifilm X-H1 do not work together.
However, I also told you that this could be related only to the current firmware and that maybe Fujifilm might be able to implement this feature in future.
And here is today’s good rumor:
I hear that Fujifilm worked on it and that OIS and IBIS now work together. Just in time for the official Fujifilm X-H1 announcement on February 15.
Now, I have no idea about the detailed way it works and if there are still some limitations of some kind. For this, we will have to wait February 15, when the Fujifilm X-H1 will be announced and we will know everything in detail.
But it’s good to know that you will be able to use both, OIS and IBIS, together.
I have my live blogging kit ready… make sure to join us on FujiRumors for the big live blogging on February 15.
On this front I have not heard anything new, so I guess that at launch it won’t have this feature. But also in this case, maybe Fujifilm will figure it out right in time.
The Fujifilm X-T3 will be announced around photokina 2018 (probably a bit earlier) and have a new X-Trans sensor with less than 30 Megapixel and a new processor – this and more details in this article.
IBIS, Good or Bad… or Both? We have written comprehensively about it here.
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There is a poll that has been requested by quite some FR-readers, such as Balbo42 on Twitter here: do you want IBIS on the Fujifilm X-T3?
Now, it’s quite difficult to launch a poll, because some might want IBIS only if it does not add size to the camera, others might want it only if it does not increase the price of the camera too much and many other criteria that I can not list here.
At the end I decided to keep the survey simple: IBIS on X-T3, yes, no or I don’t know!
You can then elaborate in the comments why you made a certain choice.
It might be of interest to read our latest “IBIS” article here, which goes more in depth regarding the Pros and Cons of IBIS.
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The Fujifilm X-T3 will be announced around photokina 2018 (probably a bit earlier) and have a new X-Trans sensor with less than 30 Megapixel and a new processor – this and more details in this article.
I thought to put some of the questions and speculations I could read in the comments and that I got via email in this article, and maybe add some thoughts to it.
The fact that Fujifilm decided to change name, and hence to create a new line of Fujifilm X series cameras, could be quite relevant.
It’s safe to assume that a new line of cameras means that this line will have some peculiarities that sets them apart from all other Fujifilm cameras.
No IBIS on Fujifilm X-T3?
What could be the features that set the Fujifilm X-H1 apart from any other Fujifilm X series camera, including the Fujifilm X-T3?
I am investigating this, but you guys already started to make speculations in the comments.
The most widly spread of your speculation in the comments is that IBIS will be a feature reserved for the Fujifilm X-H1, which means the Fujifilm X-T3 will not have IBIS.
If your speculations are right, then Fujifilm did well to change the name from X-T2S to X-H1. Two different camera lines, with some more or less significant differences, such as IBIS… but there are more of them.
Fujifilm X-H1 for Video and Fujifilm X-T3 for Stills
Let’s assume the speculations of many FR-readers are correct, and the Fujifilm X-T3 will not have IBIS.
In that case, unless you work on a rig/gimbal (where IBIS can actually become a problem, as we have shown here), the Fujifilm X-H1 will be the better video camera if you shoot handheld, not only because of IBIS, but also because the ergonomics, controls and features are more build around the needs of videographers.
The bigger camera and deeper grip of the Fujifilm X-H1 will definitely help overall stability and balance while filming, especially if you use the X-H1 with long Cine Lenses like the Fujinon MK 18-55 and MK 50-135.
I also doubt any videographer would really use the exposure compensation dial to adjust brightness while filming, since it would introduce lots of camera shakes. This is why Fujifilm got rid of it on the X-H1. You will control exposure compensation via command dial and check your value on a top LCD panel.
The bigger body might also allow better heat dissipation, allowing maybe longer (or even unlimited?) 4K video recording time.
The Fujifilm X-T line would remain mainly a stills camera, with a smaller body and more analog controls (exposure compensation dial).
And if the Fujifilm X-T3 really has no IBIS as you guys speculated, then, from a mere image quality point of view, this might have some advantages, too, since IBIS can introduce more vignetting and it can create issues with heat dissipation that lead to worst high ISO performance, as Panasonic ambassador and GH5S beta tester told us here. On the other hand, I can think of many other situations where IBIS is useful also for stills.
But I have written a detailed IBIS Pros and Cons article (also compared to OIS). Feel free to check it out.
Should Fujifilm Have Merged X-T3 and X-H1 into One Camera?
Should Fujifilm have merged the X-T3 and X-H1 into one camera?
And what’s the advantage of creating a new X-H Line?
I don’t know… but I’ll throw in some thoughts…
Making the X-T3 more “video friendly” would have ment changing the classic X-T controls and design by adding, for example, a deeper grip and overall size to the camera. And given how much loved the current design is amongst Fujifilm X-T shooters, I am not sure if such changes would have been appreciated.
By creating a new line with the Fujifilm X-H1, Fujifilm has much more freedom to make more radical ergonomic changes oriented towards the needs of videographers. And as you can see in our leaked X-H1 sketches, the X-H1 has some significant differences compared to the X-T2.
But the big question remains: will IBIS really be reserved to the X-H line? I will try to answer this question as soon as possible.
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Panasonic has always been on the forefront, when it comes to the IBIS technology. Along with Olympus, they offer the best IBIS on the market, superior to the one of Sony.
But all that glitters is not gold.
IBIS has its downsides too, and at the recent launch of the Panasonic GH5S, they explained us why they decided to leave out IBIS from their new low light video monster.
Let’s start with an interview given by a Panasonic manager to Cinema 5D here:
“The Panasonic GH5s is a high-sensitivity camera, and such a camera is used more with a tripod rather than handheld. This is one of the reasons for there being no dual IS.
However, when shooting without a tripod, since our lenses are internally stabilised, we think it will be enough. When used handheld under low light conditions, a gimbal will be used by many customers. So we think there is no problem if no body IS is provided.”
Also, cameralabs explains here that the sensor of the GH5S is actually a bit bigger than conventional M43 sensors [because of multi aspect ration] so that the IBIS mechanism does not really fit into the GH5S.
Another important downside is mentioned by official Panasonic ambassador Tyler, who said at the TCSTV GH5S live stream here:
“Where in the cinema world do you see in body image stabilization? It’s just not a thing.
The reason is heat dissipation. […]
Panasonic did a poll with the shooters they have designed the GH5S for, and they said “look, we are going to put this on a rig, we are going to put this on a stabilizer, we don’t need IBIS. It’s going to affect our image.”
Having internal IBIS is going to increase the noise because of the heat. It’s just one more way to reduce noise in this camera.”
Less heat means less noise, and I’m sure many of us have already experienced this, when we shoot astrophotography out on a cold night, that ISO performance improves, due to the cold temperatures.
Just Turn IBIS Off?
If you don’t like the IBIS side effects, just turn it off, right?
It’s still not an optimal solution.
DPreivew writes in their GH5S first impressions here:
“From a photographic perspective it may seem odd to remove image stabilization from the camera but for high-end video shooting, it makes sense.
Sensor-shift IS systems operate by ‘floating’ the sensor using a series of electromagnets. Even when they’re ‘off’ they’re not locked in place, they’re simply set so that the electromagnets aren’t attempting to correct for movement. This has the side-effect that, which mounted on a professional stabilization rig, there’s a risk of the sensor being shaken around.
For high-end video work, Panasonic says its users would prefer to use dedicated gimbals and dollies, rather than internal stabilization, and that means physically locking the sensor in place to avoid unwanted interactions between these systems and a floating sensor.”
And indeed, if you watch the Swedish video I linked above at minute 3:15 (youtube link here), you will see here how the Panasonic GH5, even with IBIS switched off, keeps up moving mounted on a car, while the GH5S is perfectly stable.
What is Better, OIS Vs. IBIS
Canon & Nikonsay that OISis better than IBIS, because:
With OIS, each lens is optimally tuned to achieve reliable correction.
OIS allows faster and more accurate AF & exposure metering, because the image comes already stabilized to the camera sensor (an advantage you’ll notice especially in low light).
OIS is more effective with long telephoto lenses
And now we can also add two more Cons to IBIS
4. depending on the lens used, IBIS can introduce more or less vignetting
5. heat generated by IBIS introduces more grain to the images
But also IBIS has some strong PROs
if you often use slower non-stabilized lenses, IBIS is a very useful feature. I’m thinking especially at old glass users, like the X-shooters from the “old lenses for dummies” thread. They would suddenly have all their lenses stabilized.
You pay for IBIS just one time, while you have to pay the OIS for each lens you get
Allows you to use features like sensor shift to create high-resolution images (only if your subject is perfectly static)
Can be used in combination with OIS (if your camera manufacturer has the proper firmware to make them run together, which should not be the case of the X-H1… at least for the start)
Some say that IBIS also adds size, weight and costs to the camera body… but well, OIS adds this size, weight and costs to the lens.
These are just some Pros and Cons. A more in-depth comparison can be read at photographylife.
But if You want the Ultimate Image Quality…
At the end, OIS or IBIS, if you really want the ultimate and very best image quality possible, then any form of in camera or lens stabilisation has to be avoided whenever possible.
Personally, I have OIS switched off most of the time on my lenses, and only when I see it’s too dark and I don’t work on a tripod, and my lens is not fast enough, then I turn it on. But for as much as possible, I try to avoid it.
But don’t get me wrong… when I switch on OIS, I consider it a very useful feature, especially Fujifilm’s top notch OIS system.
Oh, and Remember…
And always keep in mind: both, OIS and IBIS, will only compensate the shakiness of your camera and NOT for the movements of your subject (leaves in the wind, persons, animals, cars etc).
To compensate for the “shakiness of the outside world“, in bad light, you simply need fast lenses, and luckily Fuji has many F1.4 and F1.2 lenses to offer
Do I want IBIS?
I confirm what I said back in 2015 here: Yes! Fujifilm should offer a camera with IBIS. And I’m glad Fujifilm will offer IBIS in the upcoming Fujifilm X-H1.
And I don’t care if CaNikon say OIS is superior, and I don’t even care if Panasonic says today that IBIS has some more downsides than the ones highlighted by CaNikon.
What I know is that it is still a useful feature in certain circumstances.
And last but not least, the market demands IBIS.
And if Fujifilm wants to survive in a market that is shrinking and where you fight for every single customer, then Fujifilm has to give photographers at least the option to get an IBIS camera… and luckily this option comes very soon with the Fujifilm X-H1.
Tony Northrup shared his camera gear predictions video, and it includes also the Fujifilm X-H1.
Now, much has been written here on FujiRumors about the Fujifilm X-H1, and we have a vast number of specs already leaked, including accurate sketches and renderings of the real Fujifilm X-H1 camera (last rumors here).
So in this article I would not like to focus on the X-H1, but on another suggestion that comes from Tony.
Tony is a big IBIS fan, and he can’t wait to see Fujifilm launching the X-H1.
IBIS is, in his opinion, one of the two big things still missing on Fujifilm cameras. He says Fujinon lenses are very good and sharp, but lenses without OIS need IBIS.
The second big lack, always according to Tony, are APS-C F1.8 zooms. He says:
“If you do that [F1.8 zooms] and give me a sensor stabilized camera, that would put you in the same league as Full Frame Canon, Nikon and Sony and we can see a lot of professional photographers switching over to your bodies.”
So what do you guys think? Now that Fujifilm will release the X-H1 with IBIS, is the lack of F1.8 zooms the last thing that is missing to make Pros switch to Fujifilm APS-C?
The Fujfilm GFX 100S is currently scheduled for 2019 (and not 2020). A source told me it expects to cost like the Hasselblad X1D ($9,000), so there will be a rather significant bump in price.
Moreover, a rumor that you should take with a grain of salt, I hear it might have IBIS, which would be awesome, since photographers love to adapt old third party glass on it, and they would all have it stabilized :)
Keep in mind… these are all long term rumors, and so take it with a grain of salt. And especially the IBIS rumor is to double confirm.
Nokishita noticed that in the update file of X-RAW STUDIO Fujifilm adds support for the Fujifilm X-H1. Great spot, Nokishita!
But what camera is this?
Nokishita does not know, what hides behind the name “X-H1” and they don’t know any specs, except for the fact that it has 24MP and 1/32,000 shutter speed… but luckily FujiRumors can help :)
The Fujifilm X-H1 is Fuji’s first IBIS camera. Fujifilm changed name from X-T2S to X-H1. That’s what hides behind this mysterious camera :).
In the comments, some suggested that “H” stands for “Hybrid”, meaning stills/video hybrid camera. Makes perfectly sense. The new Fujinon MK Cine lenses have no OIS, and of course Fujifilm designed them without stabilization, knowing the X-H1 would come with IBIS.
All the specs I have shared so far for the X-T2S remain the same for the X-H1. It’s the same camera, just with different name.
A complete new camera line is coming… and let’s hope the changes over the X-T2 will be enough to justify the launch of a new line.
Oh, and dear FR-readers, if you see the name X-H1 popping up elsewhere saying that it will have IBIS, feel free to let your kind comment on those blogs/youtube channels and ask them to quote FujiRumors as the source.
Fujifilm’s “X-H1” is published on the latest device compatible device
In other files, the settings such as the number of pixels of “X – H1” (24 million pixels) and the shutter speed (maximum speed of 1/32000) etc are described, but the XML file containing the compatible device is the easiest to read I think. Details are unknown, but it seems that there is no doubt that “X – H1” is under development.
X-H1 Rumored Specs
Despite what Fujifilm managers said about X-mount not being compatible with IBIS, the X-H1 will have IBIS
As opposed to Olympus & Co, IBIS and OIS will not work together… at least currently that’s not possible. Maybe Fujifilm will tweak the firmware in future. But at launch I don’t expect IBIS and OIS to work together.
I know… you want a Fujifilm camera that has it all, BSI sensor and IBIS.
Well, there is one already, and it is also completely water and shock proof… the Fujifilm FinePix XP120. It now got its first firmware update (ver. 1.01) that fixes a rare over-exposure issue.
Let’s grab the occasion to make a summary about what has been rumored regarding Fuji’s second IBIS camera, the rumored X-T2S.
Despite what Fujifilm managers said about X-mount not being compatible with IBIS, the X-T2S will have IBIS
As opposed to Olympus & Co, IBIS and OIS will not work together… at least currently that’s not possible. Maybe Fujifilm will tweak the firmware in future. But at launch I don’t expect IBIS and OIS to work together.
Hey guys… I got some details about how IBIS on the X-T2S will work (at least currently).
Unlike we see on some Olympus and Panasonic cameras, the IBIS on the X-T2S can’t be combined with the OIS. So you have to use either IBIS or OIS, but they won’t work together.
What I am trying to find out now, if this is something that could be implemented later on via Firmware update or not. But at launch, I do not expect the Fujifilm X-T2S to have the “double stabilization” feature.
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