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Fujifilm X-PRO2: 24MP APS-C sensor, tilt screen, WiFi and available in 2015 (anonymous source)

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If you remember, back in January an anonymous source (with nick-name) told us that Fuji dropped plans to produce an X-PRO1S. All R&D was placed into the X-PRO2. But, so the source, sensor and design were not finalized at that time.

A few months later, rumors of an Fujifilm X-PRO2 featuring a FF sensor were quickly corrected by the trusted Japanese FR-source, who told us that it will feature an APS-C sensor.

And now the dice might have been cast. According to an anonymous source, Fujifilm decided to put a 24MP APS-C sensor into the X-PRO2.

But the source shared some more details: the X-PRO2 will have a tilting LCD screen and, as to expect, a built-in WiFi. The camera should be in stores in 2015 (the source said February, but, as we know, this is always a tricky part of rumors, as Fuji can change the date in any moment).

Another question is if it will be announced in 2014 or 2015. Mirrorlessrumors said here that it will be announced at the photokina (September). This anonymous source told me the same, but for now I’ll wait for more feedback before confirming any date (I hear different dates). It could be the photokina, the CES (January) or even another day with no imaging fair (as the X-T1, which was launched in January 28). I’ll work on it and hopefully be able to give you an update soon (and any help is warmly welcome).

However, the Fujifilm X-PRO2 should be available only in 2015.

You know it, take it with a grain of salt.

If you can help me to find out more, feel free to contact me completely anonymously via rumor box (and maybe give yourself a nick-name, so that I can eventually identify you in future if you decide to share some more rumors) or drop me an email at fujirumor [at] gmail.com.

And now let’s have a look at the rumored X-PRO2 specs list (including rumors posted by other rumor sites):

(TS= trusted source / NeS =New Source / ASwN = Anonymous source with nick-name / AS = Anonymous Source / SRP = source who was right in the past, but not yet trusted / ORS = other rumor sites)

  • APS-C sensor (TS + ASwN + AS)
  • 24MP sensor (AS)
  • available in 2015 (ASwN + AS)
  • tilt screen (AS)
  • WiFi (AS)
  • Non organic ASP-C X-Trans sensor (ORS)
  • Announcement at the photokina 2014 (ORS)

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Big Fuji Show: X200 and X-PRO2 to be announced at photokina? (source – mirrorlessrumors)

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At BHphoto you can get the X-PRO2 screen protector now and the camera in about 6 months (according to mirrorlessrumors) ;-)

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Big Fuji show at the photokina, at least according to mirrorlessrumors here: They say that Fuji will announce both, the X-PRO2 and X200 (both, according to mirrorlessrumors, with non organic new ASP-C X-Trans sensor) at the photokina (September).

They also say, that the X30 will feature a 1” sensor (while xjrumo said here the sensor will be bigger than 1”) and come earlier (dpr rumored here July 3rd).

X-PRO2 will feature an APS-C sensor! (trusted source)

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On December 16th Fuji Manager Mr. Kawahara said in this interviewif user demand FF, really, I want to hear the reason why.” Well, it seems that the reasons to put an FF sensor in the X-PRO2 did not convince the company.

In fact, the trusted Japanese source just told me that the X-PRO2 will feature an APS-C sensor. At the moment, I do not have more details about it.

That’s a good news for all those, who invested in the excellent Fujinon lenses.

Confirmed by trusted source: no more X-PRO1S. Focus on the Fujifilm X-PRO2!

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In the last weeks I’ve shared 2 rumors regarding the X-PRO1 successor:

  • an anonymous source said that no X-Pro1s is on the horizon… all R&D [research and development] is being placed into Fujifilm X-Pro2 for 2015
  • a new source said that the Fujifilm X-PRO2 will feature a FF sensor

The trusted source could NOT confirm that the X-PRO2 will feature an FF sensor, but said that there won’t be an X-PRO1S. Fuji will focus on the X-PRO2.

That’s it for now, and stay tuned!

Full Frame or not? That is the question. The FR-community seems to be divided. Here are some of the most liked comments from the last X-PRO2 rumor.

 

  • I wait for the organic apsc size sensor, not any FF!!!!!!” (Ali)
  • I suspect the main money maker will be the APSC lines, but the new FF line will increase market awareness and put Fuji well and truly in the Pro field as well. It is a totally logical business move. All the other big players have APSC and FF lines, so why should fuji exclude a certain user segment.” Allweather
  • If this decision is true, it is a bad decision. Fujifilm does not have the money and engineering resources to develop a FF mirrorless system from scratch AND continue to develop it’s APS-C X system.” jg
  • My only problem with this will be the size! the body will be bigger, lenses will be bigger and heavier, and everything will make you think why did you leave your SLR in the first place?!” Nour El Refai
  • Especially with A7/A7r are already in the market and received positive feedback, it’s time for fuji to seriously consider the FF before it’s too late. A fuji x FF with in-body stabilization is a dream camera for me :).” Wilson
  • IMHO this would be great. I believe that for many (myself included) FF is the only thing holding them back from finally ditching the DSLR and going all Fuji. Also, I don’t completely understand the people who think that Fuji would some how forget APS-C if they made a FF camera. All the lenses and many different camera bodies would still be there, so people who want to stick with APS-C can do so. It’s not like the FF would take something away from APS-C (maybe just some resources from development department).” Jukka Saarikko
  • Hopefully this is just a lame rumor. APS-C X-Trans Organic sensor please, weather sealing, updated viewfinder, better AF, MF usability with OVF needed.” Austin
  • Patrick, when exactly did you receive these rumor submissions? On April 1st?” Trenton Talbot :-)

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Typo or Freudian slip? Workshop with the Fujifilm X-PRO2 in Cambodia (July/August with official X-photographer Damien)

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Sometime I like to link to workshops of X-shooters all around the world. Well, this time I was pretty surprised to read that Damien Lovegrove (official Fuji X-photographer and known also for testing products for FujiUK) is organizing one in Cambodia in July/August and that he will likely use a Fujifilm X-PRO2 and the Fujinon XF [shoplink 12888]14[/shoplink], [shoplink 16128]23[/shoplink], [shoplink 12889]35[/shoplink], [shoplink 21554]56[/shoplink] and [shoplink 12892]55-200[/shoplink] lenses.

Sure, it must be a typo. You will hardly see any X-PRO2 before Photokina in September, when it could be officially announced. I don’t think anyone is allowed to show an X-Pro2 before that event.

But is that “X-PRO2” in Damien’s workshop just a simple typo or a Freudian slip? Well, maybe Fuji X-photographer Damien just told us that the X-PRO2 will be compatible with the existing XF-lenses.

So, dear Damian, lemme know if you’ll use the X-PRO2 in your workshop. I have holidays in August and could join it ;-).

Thanks for the link, Kamal.

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New Source: X-PRO2 will feature a Full Frame sensor. Initially 3 to 5 FF lenses!

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Les jeux sont faits! According to a new source Fujifilm decided to put a Full Frame sensor into the X-PRO2.

The source said that existing XF lenses won’t fit on on the new Full Frame X-PRO2. Therefore new FF Fujinon lenses will be offered (initially 3-5) and rest will be Leica lenses via a detachable mount.

Another anonymous source confirmed the rumor of yesterday saying that “the information you have on X-PRO1S being scrapped is correct. The X-PRO2 would be available around 6months after any X-PRO1S which is why it was stopped”.

Until now it’s all unconfirmed, so please take it with a tiny grain of salt.

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LAST 2 XF DEALS DAYS

XF 14mm: $200 off (price $700) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 18mm: $200 off (price $400) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 23mm: $150 off (price $750) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 27mm: $250 off (price $200) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 35mm: $150 off (price $450) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 60mm: $250 off (price $400) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 55-200: $200 off (price $500) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline

EU-orders: Julien: “Bought The XF27 and XF60 at amazon.us shipped in france and import fees managed by amazon (paid on order)… Received in less than 2 weeks. Cost me respectively 196€ and 388€ all included (instead of 430 and 580 in France…). I saved 420€… what a deal!” FR-reader Luzu bought lenses at BHphoto: “Choose UPS for international delivery, their option “UPS Super Saver” for around 45$ is the cheapest anyways. If you “pay on delivery”, UPS will handle all the customs work for you and deliver the item home to you where you pay the customs costs directly to the mailman.

X-camera deals

X-E2: save $100 on the kit ($1,299) and also on the body ($899) at AmazonUS, BHphoto (4% reward), Adorama (4% reward) and Pictureline.
X-M1: Save $200 (price $599) on the kit and $200 on the body (price $499) at AmazonUS, BHphoto and Adorama.
X-A1: get it for $449 with kit lens (save $150) at AmazonUS, BHphoto and Adorama.
X-PRO1: get the body for $999!! (save $200) at AmazonUSAdorama (+4%reward) and BHphoto (+4%reward).
XQ1: save $130 at AmazonUS, BHphoto and Adorama

No more X-PRO1S… all R&D placed into the X-PRO2!

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Several months ago I told you that Fuji planed to launch an X-PRO1S first, and then follow with the X-PRO2 in 2015. Now, an anonymous source, told me that:

„no X-Pro1s on the horizon… all R&D [research and development] is being placed into X-Pro2 for 2015.“

Maybe, given the great success of the X-T1, Fuji decided to cut off plans for the X-PRO1S and let the X-T1 remain their top high-end X-series camera until the launch of the X-PRO2.

This rumor comes from an anonymous source, who gave itself a nickname, so that I can recognize it in future (thanks for this). It also shared rumors in the past. Some of the rumors are still unconfirmed and others (X-T1 price) were correct.

For now, take it with a tiny grain of salt.

And feel free to use the rumor box to contact me anonymously (feel free to use a nickname) or drop me an email at fujirumor [at] gmail.com.

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XF10-24 in stock at at AmazonUS!

LAST 3 DAYS

XF lens deals end April 5th

XF 14mm: $200 off (price $700) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 18mm: $200 off (price $400) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 23mm: $150 off (price $750) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 27mm: $250 off (price $200) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 35mm: $150 off (price $450) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 60mm: $250 off (price $400) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline
XF 55-200: $200 off (price $500) at BHphoto / Adorama / AmazonUS / Pictureline

EU-orders: Julien: “Bought The XF27 and XF60 at amazon.us shipped in france and import fees managed by amazon (paid on order)… Received in less than 2 weeks. Cost me respectively 196€ and 388€ all included (instead of 430 and 580 in France…). I saved 420€… what a deal!” FR-reader Luzu bought lenses at BHphoto: “Choose UPS for international delivery, their option “UPS Super Saver” for around 45$ is the cheapest anyways. If you “pay on delivery”, UPS will handle all the customs work for you and deliver the item home to you where you pay the customs costs directly to the mailman.

X-PRO2 poll: organic sensor (APS-C), Full Frame or different pixel size (APS-C)?

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The first bunch of X-T1’s is shipping. The kit is already in stock at BHphoto too now (and also at AmazonUS). The body only is in stock via third party at AmazonUS and also at wexDE.

X-T1 body only ($1,299): USA: AmazonUS / BHphoto / Adorama / Pictureline / EU: wexDE / wexUK / PCHstore /
X-T1 with 18-55 ($1,699): USA: AmazonUS / BHphoto / Adorama / Pictureline / EU: wexDE / wexUK / PCHstore /

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Ok dear Fujifilm, we can live with it. We can wait until 2015 for the X-PRO2. We will wait because you promised us a “major breakthrough“. I still don’t know what this breakthrough will be, but I’m investigating.

As we know, there are 2 Fuji patents for new sensors: one is the organic sensor and the other is the one with the enlarged green pixels. Both could be an option for the X-PRO2… and of course, a full frame sensor.

So now it’s your turn, dear FR-readers. Which sensor you’d like to see in the X-PRO2. Feel free to vote the poll (and also to add new suggestions in the comments).

And in the meantime, Fuji, just give us XPRO1S with the X-TRANS version of Sony’s [shoplink 22210]Sony’s A6000[/shoplink] APS-C sensor, where phase-detect points cover 92% of the frame.

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Patrick

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X-PRO2 announcement in 2014 available in 2015? Design & sensor not finalized as of yet!

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Hi all

Some people asked me via personal message on facebook, twitter and email, if they should go for the X-T1 or if the X-PRO2 will be available anytime soon.

I’ve already told you that it won’t come before late 2014, but more likely in 2015 here.

Also Mr.Kawahara and other Fuji Managers said that “there are no plans for an X-PRO1 replacement for now”, because they are waiting to achieve a “major breakthrough”. So it will be radically different to what it is now (organic sensor? Full Frame?).

That said, I’d like to share a rumor from an anonymous source who already told us some X-T1 specs that I think will be correct (price $1,300, 1 card slot, X-T1 + 18-135 in April/May for $1,800…). (Thanks a lot for sharing!)

This source said:

  • X-Pro2
  • Announcement in 2014
  • Available in 2015
  • Design & sensor not finalized as of yet.

So, it’s still a pretty long wait for the X-PRO2. But I’ll try to entertain you with some rumors in the meantime :-) .

The anonymous source contacted me via rumor box and gave itself a fake name, which allows me to recognize it in future. You can do the same if you want, or also create a fake email account and contact me.

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Fuji Manager promises a total of about 20 lenses as soon as possible + no X-PRO2 for now

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FR-reader Hallvard spotted an interview with Fujifilm’s Imaging Division Sales Department Manager at the Japanese site dc.watch (thanks, I’ve missed that one!). It’s dated December 17th.

It’s available google translated here. Hallvard was so kind to decipher it for us:

I stumbled upon an in-depth interview with two Fujifilm representatives on the japanese site DC Watch (dated December 17.) which may be of interest to your readers (and which I don’t think you’ve quoted yet?). It’s not easy to make sense of everything in the Google Japanese-English translation, but a few points can be extracted:

1) He confirms that Fujifilm has no plans for a X-Pro1 replacement at the present

[admin: he also says that the X-PRO2 will remain Fuji’s flagship, so it will be released once a major breakthrough is obtained… or in the words of google translator: “It was not the only model change this year only X-Pro1, but thought at the time (as a top model) is obtained major breakthrough, X-Pro1 and want to do the appropriate model change.”]

2) He promises at least a total of about 20 lenses “as soon as possible”.

[admin: as there are actually 10 lenses available, and two more in the pipeline (the 10-24 (specs&price) and 56), there should be about 8 more lenses. 5 are already rumored to come: 16-55mm 2.8, 50-140mm 2.8, 18-135mm 3.5-5.6, Large-diameter wide-angle lens, Super-telephoto lens 200mm or more. With these rumored lenses there is a total of 17 Fujinon lenses.]

3) He elaborates on the X philosophy quite a bit, and if I’m not too far off, Fujifilm are aiming to make an industry reference” for digital imaging, like Kodak did with the silver halide film, the unquantifiable “three-dimensional appearance and feeling of air”. He emphasizes the perceived image quality, tone and color reproduction, over measurable features like S/N ratio and resolution. And he observes that the number of people who have “a deeper understanding of the X-Series” is slowly increasing. He sits tight, committed to their product, not industry trends.

I’m guessing I’m not the only one who would have liked to read a proper translation of this interview. But anyhow, I hand it over to you. Please feel free to use it as you like.

[UDPATE] Here is another translation, shared via facebook by FR-reader Levels Of Detail:

– No expectation in the short term to update the x-pro1. It’s the flagship model, so they’ll continue to upgrade it through firmware updates. They expect to upgrade the flagship model when they can time it to deliver a major technological breakthrough.

– They see the latest features like wifi or miniaturization as competitive realities that they need to address, but fundamentally they view their strengths to be around image quality and color processing.

– They don’t think they’ll be done with the lenses until they’re at about 20 choices. They focus a lot on high quality glass, and they prioritize optically corrected lenses rather than software post-processing.

– A very interesting anecdote: they mention how the 35mm f/1.4 uses an essentially 100-year old 8-element design, which requires all elements to move when performing AF. They acknowledge that by changing the design, they could improve from 400ms to 200ms for AF time, but they choose to prioritize the IQ over the extra 200ms improvement.

A lot of what they talk about really jives with my impression of the X-E2. Great IQ, some really great color processing (I really like the B/W modes), but AF is not the highest pri.

In case you missed it, there is also a nice interview with Fuji manager Mr. Kawahara here.

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